Okayy so tomorrow were having a debate on Global Warming. I know,, that’s a freaking huge topic that gets a lot of people fired up and I really don’t want people stabbing each other over this. Yet I find myself on the opposed side tomorrow and I have to be able to support why I think Global Warming is a conspiracy. Now Ive attempted to do some research,, and have unfortunately come up short because it is late and they uselott of big words that my brain is way too tired to sort out. So I was hoping that someone could help me find say 5 or 6 points as to why I think that global warming is a conspiracy. Here are some that I have found that I have dumbed down slightly for myself,, but if anyone feels like elaborating on them I would gladly accept =) Thanks in advance :
•A desire on the part of the United Nations and its supporters to promote a system of world government or global governance. Proponents of this theory frequently stress the role of Maurice Strong.
•A desire on the part of environmentalists to prevent carbon-based industrial development in Africa, while reducing industrial output in the United States
•A desire on the part of climate science researchers to attract financial support
•A desire by the government to raise taxes
•A desire on the part of conservative political leaders including Margaret Thatcher, and Helmut Kohl to promote nuclear power while attracting the political support of Green groups
•A desire on the part ofleft wingg political leaders to promote socialism:
oAccording to a critical special contribution written by Lawrie McFarlane in Victoria’s Times Colonist, "For socialism, at least in its early form, shared those same instincts — distrust of private enterprise, animus toward wealth, the urge to proselytize and faith in big government. And like environmentalism, it marched under the banner of a superior morality. (…) Environmentalism is neither religion nor science. It is a political mission, every bit as unquestioning as socialism in its heyday, and offering the same giddy promise to followers: The delicious prospect of being in the right, and better still, running things."[31]
oCzech President Václav Klaus said that "This ideology preaches earth and nature and under the slogans of their protection – similarly to the old Marxists – wants to replace the free and spontaneous evolution of mankind by a sort of central, now global, planning of the whole world"[32]
Yes,, I did read that DJ thanks. But alot of it didnt make sense to me. Too science-y and politically. And I know that people are going to call me stupid for that,, but Im completely okay with that.
And I am most deffinately not going to just print those out and hand them in. I am going to have to first research them more and be able to debate them for in class tommorrow. I was just hoping that someone could help me understand them a bit more thouroughly so that I will be able to argue them in a debate.
So I found another point to add to my debate about Marketers if any one feels like exploring that further.
–marketers sell "Green and safe" products at a higher rate (or just a cheaper product at same price) than there "kill the earth" counterpart and make profit while cutting short there competitor ( For example Hybrids )
Also I would just like to point out that I do agree with all who have so far posted. I feel that the fact that people can deny GW is rediculous,, and that is why I am having such a hard time with debating the opposite side. I am just trieng to be open with learning both sides,, that is all.
Human caused global warming is a theory
Ignore the fear mongers because they need you to be afraid and blindly follow them. Its just politics as usual.
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Have you already seen this? It is a pretty good collection of what those whack jobs are saying:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_warming_conspiracy
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…annnd now that I reread your question, I see that you have plagiarized ALL of your points from that article. Might want to change the words there hon. Your teacher can easily find out if you just copied and pasted.
To support conspiracy you could add how the science has been transformed by the politics of it.
The following is a quote where Dr. Lindzen, MIT professor of atmospheric physics talks about how the science changed because of reliance on modeling and politics.
http://www.ecoworld.com/climate/climate-science-is-it-currently-designed-to-answer-questions.html
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"The institutional factor has many components. One is the inordinate growth of administration in universities and the consequent increase in importance of grant overhead. This leads to an emphasis on large programs that never end. Another is the hierarchical nature of formal scientific organizations whereby a small executive council can speak on behalf of thousands of scientists as well as govern the distribution of ‘carrots and sticks’ whereby reputations are made and broken.
The above factors are all amplified by the need for government funding. When an issue becomes a vital part of a political agenda, as is the case with climate, then the politically desired position becomes a goal rather than a consequence of scientific research.
This paper will deal with the origin of the cultural changes and with specific examples of the operation and interaction of these factors. In particular, we will show how political bodies act to control scientific institutions, how scientists adjust both data and even theory to accommodate politically correct positions, and how opposition to these positions is disposed of…."
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Hey, start wearing a tinfoil hat.
If you look the news you can see it’s true, I have witnessed it ; D
You know the first hurricane in Brazil about 5 years ago, I was there, there were floods last year too, and yes landslides, 60,000 misplaced, the worst catastrophe ever there, also, look at Australia.
How can you say such thing?
Very disrespectful to those 60,000 people :’ (
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Human caused global warming is a theory
Ignore the fear mongers because they need you to be afraid and blindly follow them. Its just politics as usual.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Vostok-ice-core-petit.png
http://www.ac.wwu.edu/~dbunny/research/global/215.pdf
There is no way to "dumb down" anything deniers regurgitate. It’s already as dumb as it gets. You got a fine list for why anyone would want to conspire to make such a hoax. Just make stuff up. That’s all they do.
There are two main points that deniers use to deny global warming. Each one contradicts the other.
One is that the earth is cooling, and that every scientific organization in the world (except the ones funded by oil companies) is lying to you, and the only trustworthy source of news is fox "news."
The other is that the world is warming but it’s natural causes.
ironically, almost all deniers will regurgitate each one and both of those points periodically, sometimes simultaneously.
Also they are both just wrong.
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In 1975 & 1976 climate scientists were claiming we were entering a new ice age. But it got warmer in the late 70′s and early 80′s. The environmentalists had not been having much success in convincing people to slow down on polluting. They then took the opportunity to start claiming man-man pollution was causing the earth to heat up, and if we didn’t do something about it, it would be the end of life on earth.
It has been cooling since 1998, but the climate environmentalists have their models hard-coded to produce warmer temperatures. They believe the end justifies the means.
There might be some good info at http://www.isthereglobalcooling.com
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Those old crisp just want to continue emission and they can do business and earn more. Their Cannibalism will continue until the end of the day.
They believe that science and technology can help people to control weather and everything in the world. Those Global Warming will be under control by science and technology. If science cannot do it, then it is not science.
It is true that eventually human has to take further evolution to overcome the extreme climate but by reducing the emission, the workload will be handle-able. For example, laser can be used to decompose CO2. However, to decompose 1cc of CO2, its power source would emit 3cc of CO2. Then you need a clean source to do the decomposition.
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Here are a couple of papers to read:
http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/fpcomment/archive/2009/05/29/lawrence-solomon-enron-s-other-secret.aspx
http://arxiv.org/pdf/0809.3762v1
Here is another one. Here is a good quote to use
Because of the high importance of this realization, in 1994 Dr. Jaworowski, together with a team from the Norwegian Institute for Energy Technics, proposed a research project on the reliability of trace-gas determinations in the polar ice. The prospective sponsors of the research refused to fund it, claiming the research would be "immoral" if it served to undermine the foundations of climate research.
The refusal did not come as a surprise. Several years earlier, in a peer-reviewed article published by the Norwegian Polar Institute, Dr. Jaworowski criticized the methods by which CO2 levels were ascertained from ice cores, and cast doubt on the global-warming hypothesis. The institute’s director, while agreeing to publish his article, also warned Dr. Jaworowski that "this is not the way one gets research projects." Once published, the institute came under fire, especially since the report soon sold out and was reprinted. Said one prominent critic, "this paper puts the Norsk Polarinstitutt in disrepute." Although none of the critics faulted Dr. Jaworowski’s science, the institute nevertheless fired him to maintain its access to funding.
Read more: http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=25526754-e53a-4899-84af-5d9089a5dcb6&p=2#ixzz0ZfALpoNu
Note the
Jim Hansen is the man responsible putting the ground temperatures together. He keeps making arbitrary changes without accounting for them. This is what his former boss said:
"Furthermore, some scientists have manipulated the observed data to justify their model results. In doing so, they neither explain what they have modified in the observations, nor explain how they did it.
"They have resisted making their work transparent so that it can be replicated independently by other scientists. This is clearly contrary to how science should be done. Thus there is no rational justification for using climate model forecasts to determine public policy.”
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/01/28/nasa_climate_theon/
Here is a speech from Micheal Crichton (Jurassic park fame) where he talks about how environmentalism has become a religion. So if you want to talk about motive for scientists, this is the one. The belief that it is immoral for humans to interfere with nature.
http://www.michaelcrichton.net/speech-environmentalismaseligion.html
Politicians are then using these religious scientists, to promote a political agenda. Google "club of Rome".
I hope this information is not too late for you.
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As the world cools everything is going to get more interesting for sure. But then of course those who understand science even if they are not experts always enjoy the serious comedy when a liberal sticks reputation on his own logic which the average 6th grader who had a moderate teacher knows is wrong. Well so as the world cools more and more silly liberals are going to trip over the AGW lies they have been spreading for the last 15 or so years and liberals flat on their face in the mud has always been the funniest spectacle in the world.
Some scientific information revealing the truth about global warming, when it happened and what probably caused it. And as well how many years, centuries or millennia it might be before the world warms up again from the coming ice age.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:0Master_Past_20000yrs_temperatures_icecore_Vostok_150dpi.png
http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/global_warming.html
http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/greenhouse_data.html
http://reasonmclucus.tripod.com/CO2myth.html
http://mc-computing.com/qs/Global_Warming/Atmospheric_Analysis.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_variation
Where the heat came from and why it was abnormally cold previously
http://www.ac.wwu.edu/~dbunny/research/global/215.pdf
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_cycle
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_minimum
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maunder_Minimum
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There is no conspiracy. Global warming is a serious threat to the planet.
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Crash course
http://www.archive.org/details/Dr.TimBall-ClimategateAndAntroprogenicGlobalWarmingFraud
http://www.archive.org/details/InfowarsClimategate1-November2009
http://www.archive.org/details/WhatReallyHappenedNovember242009-Climategate
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Question too long to read, but you might be interested in this very recent news story.
Apparently, Russia is now publicly questioning the manipulation of Russian climate data by IPCC to make the case for global warming.
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100020126/climategate-goes-serial-now-the-russians-confirm-that-uk-climate-scientists-manipulated-data-to-exaggerate-global-warming/
The Climate Gate story gets more interesting every day. Soon the corporate media will have to start reporting some truth or lose what little credibility it has left.
EXCERPT:
Climategate has already affected Russia. On Tuesday, the Moscow-based Institute of Economic Analysis (IEA) issued a report claiming that the Hadley Center for Climate Change based at the headquarters of the British Meteorological Office in Exeter (Devon, England) had probably tampered with Russian-climate data.
The IEA believes that Russian meteorological-station data did not substantiate the anthropogenic global-warming theory. Analysts say Russian meteorological stations cover most of the country’s territory, and that the Hadley Center had used data submitted by only 25% of such stations in its reports. Over 40% of Russian territory was not included in global-temperature calculations for some other reasons, rather than the lack of meteorological stations and observations.
The data of stations located in areas not listed in the Hadley Climate Research Unit Temperature UK (HadCRUT) survey often does not show any substantial warming in the late 20th century and the early 21st century.
The HadCRUT database includes specific stations providing incomplete data and highlighting the global-warming process, rather than stations facilitating uninterrupted observations.
On the whole, climatologists use the incomplete findings of meteorological stations far more often than those providing complete observations.
IEA analysts say climatologists use the data of stations located in large populated centers that are influenced by the urban-warming effect more frequently than the correct data of remote stations.
The scale of global warming was exaggerated due to temperature distortions for Russia accounting for 12.5% of the world’s land mass. The IEA said it was necessary to recalculate all global-temperature data in order to assess the scale of such exaggeration.
Global-temperature data will have to be modified if similar climate-date procedures have been used from other national data because the calculations used by COP15 analysts, including financial calculations, are based on HadCRUT research.
What the Russians are suggesting here, in other words, is that the entire global temperature record used by the IPCC to inform world government policy is a crock.
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